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Oil to Graphite May 26, 2020 9:00:14 GMT -7

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Post by S@HD Racing on May 26, 2020 9:00:14 GMT -7

Our Council is going to have a Virtual Race next month, and initial rules say dry lube only. I have heard before that it is best to make new wheels if going from graphite to oil because of how hard it is to get rid of ALL graphite burnished in bores, but with a good wash can you successfully go from Oil to Graphite?

I think I got on the planning committee so hopefully I can still get them to change their ways.

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Oil to Graphite May 26, 2020 11:21:56 GMT -7 S@HD Racing likes this

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Post by 358T Racing on May 26, 2020 11:21:56 GMT -7

Back in our scout days we switched from graphite to oil using the same everything. Yes it is very difficult to get all the graphite out. In the end it was a bit faster on oil. Best of all it was more consistent on the oil. But that was early on in our pwd car building careers. With what I have experienced and learned since then I would say that you would be much better off with a new set of wheels for oil.

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Last Edit: May 26, 2020 11:22:31 GMT -7 by 358T Racing

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S@HD Racing Moderator Posts: 1,554	Oil to Graphite May 26, 2020 12:21:46 GMT -7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by S@HD Racing on May 26, 2020 12:21:46 GMT -7 Thanks Scott, but I was wondering if it was easier to go the other way, from Oil to Graphite?
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Oil to Graphite May 26, 2020 12:24:42 GMT -7 S@HD Racing likes this

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Post by Admin on May 26, 2020 12:24:42 GMT -7

Oil to graphite not problem. Just clean out the oil and burnish in graphite and you'll be good to go.

May 26, 2020 12:21:46 GMT -7 S@HD Racing said:

Thanks Scott, but I was wondering if it was easier to go the other way, from Oil to Graphite?

HurriCrane Racing 10x World, 26x National, & 39x NPWDRL Champion Getting to the top is Easy. Staying on top is a grind! Enjoy the ride. Posts: 811	Oil to Graphite May 26, 2020 12:52:33 GMT -7 S@HD Racing likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by HurriCrane Racing on May 26, 2020 12:52:33 GMT -7 If it is a really good set of wheels, I'd get a new set for the graphite race. Save the good wheels for league racing. Scout tracks are notoriously hard on wheels.

358T Racing 1x World, 1x NPWDRL Champion Posts: 215	Oil to Graphite May 26, 2020 18:51:20 GMT -7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 358T Racing on May 26, 2020 18:51:20 GMT -7 May 26, 2020 12:21:46 GMT -7 S@HD Racing said: Thanks Scott, but I was wondering if it was easier to go the other way, from Oil to Graphite? Doh... sorry bout that. Scott
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Oil to Graphite May 27, 2020 12:46:21 GMT -7 via mobile S@HD Racing likes this

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May 26, 2020 12:52:33 GMT -7 HurriCrane Racing said:

If it is a really good set of wheels, I'd get a new set for the graphite race. Save the good wheels for league racing.
Scout tracks are notoriously hard on wheels.

This is a great point. Any wheel used on your typical pack track will never be used in league again. Our churches Awana GP runs on their 42’ 4 lane Best Track. Yeah I won’t even tune my cars on that thing. It chews wheels up like a rat... literally...

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Oil to Graphite May 27, 2020 15:39:52 GMT -7 jimmy1973 likes this

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May 27, 2020 12:46:21 GMT -7 jimmy1973 said:

May 26, 2020 12:52:33 GMT -7 HurriCrane Racing said:

If it is a really good set of wheels, I'd get a new set for the graphite race. Save the good wheels for league racing.
Scout tracks are notoriously hard on wheels.

I hear ya! I've helped scouts with their cars, and have attended the races. I couldn't even tell you if the track is good or bad because it only has one piece of stop section, so I don't know if I should blame the track, or the floor the cars land on! I helped two brothers in their pack race, and one of the car's rear wheels snapped in half because it flew off the track! The other car did the same thing, and had a really bad wobble on one of the wheels. All packs are different, and some tracks are better than others, but that's my recent experience.

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Oil to Graphite May 27, 2020 16:08:07 GMT -7 via mobile

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May 27, 2020 15:39:52 GMT -7 T-Bone Racing said:

May 27, 2020 12:46:21 GMT -7 jimmy1973 said:

So I looked at our wheels after the races a couple years ago. They literally had gouges in them, like little chew marks from a rat! The following year I ran my fingers over the joints and almost cut my finger. The raised edges were real bad. They just slam that thing together and then literally TEAR it apart. And here they won’t let me sand, polish and recondition it because they don’t want me to “scratch” it! Now that’s frustrating. I still may sneak in there some day and do it anyways. Even Best Track states that they do not anodize them just so they can be sanded and polished! I told them this and they still won’t listen. You couldn’t pay me to send one of my league cars down that thing. Lol

Reece Racing 1x World, 3x NPWDRL Champion Posts: 980	Oil to Graphite May 27, 2020 18:17:18 GMT -7 via mobile ljo likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Reece Racing on May 27, 2020 18:17:18 GMT -7 I’ve went from oil to graphite and graphite to oil on the same set of wheels. I think it’s all about getting them clean.

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Oil to Graphite May 28, 2020 7:11:53 GMT -7 via mobile DerbyBoyz likes this

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Post by MoJo Racing on May 28, 2020 7:11:53 GMT -7

Honestly, I don't even like for my oil cars to run on tracks that run graphite also.

It is too much of a pain in the butt to clean the graphite off.

And, if you're trying to clean the graphite out of your bores, all you're gonna do is open your bores up more.

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Oil to Graphite May 28, 2020 16:41:33 GMT -7 via mobile Reece Racing, Castoro Racing, and 1 more like this

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Post by DWS Racing on May 28, 2020 16:41:33 GMT -7

Using wheels from oil to granite is no problem at all. I have a graphite car used earlier this month that I plan to convert back to oil. I'll do the normal cleaning of bores using same axles. I figure what ever burnished graphite might remain in bores isnt going to be an issue with oil. If I cant wash it out using normal cleaning methods, I have no reason to expect it will interfere with oil performance. I'll keep you posted on how it turns out though.

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Oil to Graphite Jun 1, 2020 15:00:25 GMT -7

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Post by Jupiter Derby 2.9 on Jun 1, 2020 15:00:25 GMT -7

May 28, 2020 16:41:33 GMT -7 DWS Racing said:

I've been going back & forth a lot lately, with the virus & all the scout geared national stuff we didn't have enough bodies & wheels to target everybody.
After a couple of flip flops the .015 difference "oil to g" was consistent on all the cars we prepped

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