This hobby is very frustrating

Eastman Racing BASX Pro 2x NPWDRL Champion Posts: 370	This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 18:29:02 GMT -7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Eastman Racing on Apr 9, 2016 18:29:02 GMT -7 get faster at home and slower on raceday
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Crash Enburn
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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 18:39:09 GMT -7

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Post by Crash Enburn on Apr 9, 2016 18:39:09 GMT -7

Tell me about it. On my SR, it ran 2.99s months ago. I had access to a track, and found .02 seconds. Sent it in. It was *slower* than the time before. That was pretty depressing.

I took it out of its storage, and ran it on my tuning board. It was turning close to 10" over 4'. Aha! Cleaned the axles and re-lubed. Set the steer to 4". Submitted. 3.03s.

Not just last, but *dead* last. By a huge chunk. My Box Stock did the same.

Really, really questioning doing this any more...

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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 18:42:57 GMT -7

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Post by zigzag on Apr 9, 2016 18:42:57 GMT -7

Same thing happened to me - my car ugly duckling got faster on my track but ran slower this time around. My track times also gave me expectations on bassmaster that fell flat.

My plan - grab a beer and start fresh in the morning.

Eastman Racing BASX Pro 2x NPWDRL Champion Posts: 370	This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Eastman Racing on Apr 9, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -7 I got 005 faster at home and have lost 007 since feb at the track
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B_Regal Racing Poll Group Still searching for that last 1/100th of a second Posts: 426	This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 18:58:04 GMT -7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by B_Regal Racing on Apr 9, 2016 18:58:04 GMT -7 Troy, you're one of the top 3 racers. I'm not sure I subscribe to the fact that you are getting "slow." I want to get "as slow as you are" someday....
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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 19:31:09 GMT -7

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Post by HurriCrane Racing on Apr 9, 2016 19:31:09 GMT -7

I have to also admit that all the speed gains I'm seeing on my track don't seem to be translating into speed on the league track. I think it has to do with single pass runs on my test track. I cannot duplicate the turbulence that 4 lanes of traffic will cause.

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King Racing
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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 9, 2016 20:01:49 GMT -7

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Post by King Racing on Apr 9, 2016 20:01:49 GMT -7

Humidity plays a huge difference in my track. I can test in the evening and be fast. set the same car in the morning and be .01-.02 slower. Wait till later in the day and BAM speed comes back. It is frustrating for sure.

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Eastman Racing
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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 12:43:51 GMT -7

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Post by Eastman Racing on Apr 10, 2016 12:43:51 GMT -7

Apr 9, 2016 18:58:04 GMT -7 B_Regal Racing said:

Troy, you're one of the top 3 racers. I'm not sure I subscribe to the fact that you are getting "slow." I want to get "as slow as you are" someday....

I am probably top 3 that has never won a race

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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 14:16:14 GMT -7 via mobile

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Post by Ballistic Racing on Apr 10, 2016 14:16:14 GMT -7

Yes, frustrating but part of the fun...I think! My third place BASX car sling shot from last month fell way short this time all the way down to 17th. Went from a 2.96 to a 97 car without touching it, go figure??? Luckily my new car mister twister came through but just fell short of the finals...back to the drawing board!

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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 14:28:06 GMT -7

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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 10, 2016 14:28:06 GMT -7

Apr 10, 2016 14:16:14 GMT -7 Ballistic Racing said:

I think they call that the "USPS Tuning Service."

Ballistic Racing 1x World, 3x NPWDRL Champion Gone Ballistic! Posts: 142	This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 14:52:59 GMT -7 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ballistic Racing on Apr 10, 2016 14:52:59 GMT -7 Hmmm... I don't remember paying UPS anything extra for that service! Lol!

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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 15:10:33 GMT -7 Ballistic Racing likes this

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Post by •JBD Racing• on Apr 10, 2016 15:10:33 GMT -7

It's all in fun ... I made 2 changes to my SS and it got faster , and a few changes to the BASX and it got faster.. The changes I made to the SP well .. It slowed down a lot.. But I kept a reference point to go back too.. And too think I tried selling the SS & BASX and no one tried to buy either one of them.. I'm glad of it now and I took it down.. Lol .. Time to get them ready for Nationals and put some new rubber on them... And axles ..

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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 18:44:27 GMT -7 Admin likes this

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Post by CHR Racing on Apr 10, 2016 18:44:27 GMT -7

Thanks for everyone posting their thoughts here. I was also disappointed by my results yesterday in Street Stock (3 cars and all performed worse than previous outings). I had big hopes with new wheels on 2 of the cars. At least my Basx car performed better than previous. Seems so easy to take a step or two forward and then BANG - back you go and for no obvious reason.

I come at it from a different perspective of not having a proper test track and am given pause about getting one when I see people posting on here that they are tuning for improved performance on their own track (I assume in all or most cases a Best Track) but this did not translate to race day. I guess the test track will allow you to tune/optimize to a certain point but , as Hurricrane suggested, it's not until you get to the league track running 4 abreast that you know what you have. Also if you are only running a 35 foot track for testing, maybe you lose comparability to the full 42 footer (I think that has been suggested before)?

Are people still putting markings on the cars for staging based on what worked best for that car on your own track ? I know there was a lot of discussion about that a while back.

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This hobby is very frustrating Apr 10, 2016 21:20:21 GMT -7 Admin likes this

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Apr 10, 2016 18:44:27 GMT -7 CHR Racing said:

I guess the test track will allow you to tune/optimize to a certain point but , as Hurricrane suggested, it's not until you get to the league track running 4 abreast that you know what you have. Also if you are only running a 35 foot track for testing, maybe you lose comparability to the full 42 footer (I think that has been suggested before)?

Are people still putting markings on the cars for staging based on what worked best for that car on your own track ? I know there was a lot of discussion about that a while back.

Yep - I have a single lane 35' best track. I just tune for the best performance and send the car in. If it wiggles in a race (there have been those cases), I just add a bit more steer for the next race. Its part of my tweaking. As for staging, Joel can most certainly stage a car better than I can so I just let him do it (I know some do mark on their cars staging position). When I get to that next level, I might put markings on my cars for staging, but not today.

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This hobby is very frustrating

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