BASX AM to BASX PRO

Let your speed be your guide. If you can run sub 70 in basx, you are fast enough to run pro.

I don’t believe that a racer should be able to run both. Once you enter or declare yourself a “pro” you can’t go back to AM.

If it is proven that you are running a pro built car in Basx AM, you should be moved to Basx Pro. This was a big problem in 2016, not so much in 2017. The AM class is what feeds our league and we should protect the AM class as a safe place for beginner racers to hone their skills.

I respectfully disagree. I'm not in favor of speed being a factor at all because it penalizes those who are fast (or SuperFast as the case may be). Someone has to win Am, and I say we let that person win fairly without moving the goalposts. If it's their first year, they have no prior racing experience, they are Am. Period.

I'm not against forcing sub 70's to move after the year is concluded, but I don't think that has been an issue, and I think everyone should move after an entire year of racing. Not doing so creates an advantage even to a slower racer who doesn't have to move up and gets to race against brand new racers the following year. He's very likely to find his speed somewhere along the way, and comes back with a year's experience over every other racer in that class. So the next class of Am's don't get to race against true, fellow Ams.

I enjoyed running both classes last year - one in which I could be competitive, and one to see how I stacked up in Pro traffic. It was a great learning experience - and easier to keep track of for moderators on the backend.

I ran sub 70 with my own cars in AM last year and I'm proud of that, especially if I was racing against pro-built cars. I'd like to have seen how they'd finished the year if all was on the up and up. There were people saying some of us should have raced up last year, but I think that's unfair. I was brand new to building cars (amateur) and got what little speed I had fair and square; wouldn't have been much fun to move up and finish mid-pack all year (which is what my own cars did running concurrently in BASX Pro). I take my lumps willingly now, but I think Ams should have a chance to taste a little success before throwing them to the wolves.

If there is a way to prove a car is pro-built, by all means throw it out. I still say the onus is on the seller. He knows his cars and should report if he suspects it. Otherwise, we force Joel to make a judgement call which isn't a fair position to put him in. I'd also lobby against experienced racers from other leagues coming over and claiming Am status. A loophole that didn't play in this year, but did our rookie year. No disrespect to that racer - he did what he was allowed to do, but didn't sit well with some of us.


I was in the Rookie class last year along with Skywalker and also was able to have a few cars that ran sub 70.  More than a few did.  I agree with with him that you should be able to race in the rookie class regardless of your speed.  I believe that there will always be Pro built cars in the AM division.  I don't believe that Joel should be put in a position to make the call and I also sadly believe that the "sellers" are not going to do anything to prevent it and I believe that they actually encourage it.  I do believe that those who have to buy a car to win in the AM class is a sad piece of sh!t and thankfully those guys are usually out of the league after their rookie season is over.  I will say it looks as if it was not as big an issue as last year so that is a positive.

I'm a BASX AM racer, and I'm very slow. I can promise you if I ever win a BASX AM race, I'll look at the pro times for that race to see if I would have won there. If the time wouldn't have won the pro race, it wont feel like a true win. Probably won't ever know the feeling anyway.
Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment, but I've thought about racing BASX Pro even with my slow cars. Ive heard next year there will be some classes where pre 2009 wheels aren't allowed. Those will be the classes I am racing.
Box stock doesn't interest me at all and it's not because I don't want to build fenders. To race BASX, I can buy decent vendor trued wheels. Box stock, I have to sort through hundreds of stock wheels trying to find some wheel that is randomly 5 standard deviations better than average stock wheels. No thanks.

This is a long post to say, I don't care what y'all decide because I want out of BASX AM as fast as possible.